Friday, November 21, 2014

THE ANSWER IN AN ATTEMPT AGAIN TO DISPROVE LORD JESUS IS A CREATOR USING JOHN 17:2

For the silly Church of Manalo's members, the reason why Lord Jesus is a Creator it is because they use this verse:

John 17:2 as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He should[a] give eternal life to as many as You have given Him.

The reason for John 17:2 is read verse 1:


Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: “Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You,

Why glorify? it is because Christ had his glory before our world exists:

John 17:5 
And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.

Now can you say that Jesus is only a man here in verse 5 since he existed before our world exists? NO.

For them the Father is only One God and Creator in Malachi 2:10.

I as a Catholic agrees on it.

There is only One God and Father. but there is only One and only begotten Son of God who came from the bosom of the Father.

John 1:18 
No one has ever seen God. The only Son, who is truly God and is closest to the Father, has shown us what God is like. (Contemporary English Version)

I believe the ministers of Manalo will not read this verse in this CEV version while using the same version to prove that Jesus is truly human here TO FIT FOR THEIR WRONG BELIEF ABOUT THE NATURE OF LORD JESUS CHRIST.

1 Timothy 2:5

There is only one God,
and Christ Jesus
    is the only one
who can bring us
    to God.
Jesus was truly human,
and he gave himself
    to rescue all of us.

The Catholic Church does not disagree that Jesus is truly human. WHAT WE DISAGREE IS THE CHURCH OF MANALO SAY THAT JESUS IS ONLY HUMAN.

Even now its ministers cannot read in the Bible where CHRIST SAID THAT HE IS NOT GOD.

Anyway, IS THERE CONTRADICTION BETWEEN MALACHI 2:10 where it says that the Father is One God the Creator and Acts 3:15 that Jesus is a Creator?

NO.

First: During the time of Malachi, Lord Jesus was not introduced to the sons of men as another God because he is only the begotten Son of God who came from the bosom of the Father (read John 1:18) during that time.

It is in the time of the Christian era that the Lord Jesus was introduced to the sons of men as Creator and God.

Second: The Hebrew word of the word ONE in ONE GOD in Malachi 2:10 is Echad or United One.

It is not Yachid or Absolute Numeric One.

Echad can be read in Genesis 2:24 it says the two (man and woman) shall become one.

A United One being needs to have a another being WHO HAS THE SAME NATURE WITH HIS to become united with.

If men will count, there are 2 but really one.

The Oneness of the Father is not ABSOLUTE NUMERIC ONE but UNITED ONENESS.

It means the Father is united with somebody with the same nature as him.

This is Lord Jesus in John 17:11.

It is because Lord Jesus is the brightness of God's glory and express image in Hebrews 1:3.

Third: Jesus is the POWER AND WISDOM OF GOD (1 Corinthians 1:24)

By means of God's power, the world was created

Jeremiah 32:17 ‘Ah, Lord God! Behold, You have made the heavens and the earth by Your great power and outstretched arm. There is nothing too hard for You.

Jesus is also the arm of the Lord as mentioned in John 12:36-38.

The Father created all things but there is someone who is doing his work.

John 5:17
But Jesus answered them, “My Father has been working until now, and I have been working.”

John 1:3
All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.

Him in John 1:3 who were made through Him is no doubt is our Lord Jesus Christ.


NO MAN ONLY CAN DO WHAT GOD CAN DO.

Remember
no man can find out the work that God does from beginning to end. (Ecclesiastes 3:11)

Before we do, we think of it first right?

God's way and thoughts are not of mens' thoughts and ways (Isaiah 55:8-9)

Besides it is clear in Genesis 1:26 that God has a companion in Creation of the world and men who is his image who became the image of men.

of course they are not angels it is because no where in the Bible it says that MEN WERE CREATED IN THE IMAGE OF ANGELS.

The Express image of God is Jesus (Hebrews 1:2-3)

The reason why the Hebrew word for God their is ELOHIM in plural form.

EL is the singular form that pertains to the Almighty in Genesis 17:1.

WE SHOULD NOT WONDER WHY BOTH GOD AND HIS SON JESUS CHRIST ARE CREATOR.

They may be 2 in mens' counting but only one because they are united.

like husband and wife, they may be 2 but only one. THEY ARE OF THE SAME NATURE.

remember that the Oneness of God as mentioned in this article is NOT NUMERIC ONENESS but UNITED ONENESS.

In fact, God and his Son are together during the time of Creation.

Proverbs 30:4

Who has ascended into heaven, or descended?
Who has gathered the wind in His fists?
Who has bound the waters in a garment?
Who has established all the ends of the earth?
What is His name, and what is His Son’s name,

If you know?

The one who established all the ends of the earth is God and his Son.

No wonder why the Father and his Son Jesus are Creator.

THERE IS NO CONTRADICTION BETWEEN ACTS 3:15 AND MALACHI 2:10.

where it says the Father is a Creator and Jesus is also a Creator.

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